07.03.08
Open Letter to Thomas Richards: Spiritually Smart or Intellectually Stupid?
Posted in Common Sense, Gary Dale Cearley, Thomas Richards, Tony Alamo, alberto rivera, conspiracy, jack chick, jesuit, religion tagged alarm, alberto, alex, Australia, blog, bullshit, catholic, cearley, chick, church, conspiracy, critic, critique, cult, dale, gary, guyana, islam, jack, jim, jones, Jonestown, leo, letter, Melbourne, open, richards, rivera, ryan, social, society, thomas, Vatican at 1:52 am by Gary Dale Cearley
Thomas,
How are you? I hope well!
I just saw the below message from you which his reply to a post from a viewer in Melbourne, Australia:
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tlthe5th (1 month ago) Yes, I read through some of it. Some of it’s highlights. It’s trash. And i mean it. i was so happy to see that actually. What sources he used were very weak and most of it wasn’t sourced at all. The man is a total Vatican shill as well.
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For your reference, this was from this YouTube page.
I am writing this to you because a friend of mine in the United States just sent me this exchange between you and the viewer that concerned me directly. I saw the link from her and at first I thought that I would just leave it but then I listened to your diatribe about “lying” in the beginning of this video. As such I feel compelled to reply.
I am the author of the book in question, “Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness: The Truth about the Vatican and the Birth of Islam”, and after reading your comments I have to say that I really do not believe that you have actually even seen my book. I personally think that you are lying. I wrote a reply to the post which I hope will be posted.
Where do I start?
Besides calling the book “trash”, which I could be taken as a qualitative opinion on any aspect of the book (cover, artwork, writing style, etc.), I have problems with a few of your assertions. You are free to call the book trash if you want. I certainly don’t share this view but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
What set off alarms in my head was when you said that my sources “were very weak” and “most of it wasn’t sourced at all.” You went on to say that I am “a total Vatican shill as well.”
First of all, I spent two years on the research of this book and there are multiple sources on almost every page. I am very adamant that the sources are open and in order. I hereby request you to point out exactly which sources were weak. I ask you in the process to point out exactly what segments of the book were not sourced at all. I think the onus is on you here due to your unwarranted comments though I seriously doubt that you will take up the challenge. Case in point, in your own video you don’t source your own assertions about Leo Ryan, the CIA, Jim Jones, Gary Metz, etc.
As for me being a “Vatican shill”, I am not a Catholic, have never been a Catholic and on top of that I am highly critical of the Pope and the Catholic Church on almost all of their positions. I was raised in an Evangelical church. My book had nothing to do with defending the Catholic Church at all. It was solely about taking all of Alberto Rivera’s claims regarding the Vatican and the birth of Islam and looking at them one by one and examining them for the historical truth. If you have indeed seen the book, which I doubt, you will note that include Rivera’s entire testimony word by word broken down by chapter. In fact the opening of every one of my chapters that discusses Rivera’s testimony in the book are Alberto Rivera’s own words, as published by Jack Chick, laid out for examination by the entire world.
Personally I do not believe from reading your comments about my book that you have even been in the same room with my book. (If so can you tell me where you saw this book?) I recommend that you have a look at the book yourself. Once you have actually seen and examined the book (and hopefully you will even read it as well!), compare it to your comments. I think then you will see who is a bullshit artist and who has done their homework.
Best regards,
Gary Dale Cearley
This open letter is directed to Thomas Richards.
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Bernie Hoffman said,
July 4, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Dear Mr. Cearley,
I have not read your book, nor am I familiar with your views, so I cannot address them. I am, however, familiar with Mr. Richards and his views. You are correct when you call him intellectually stupid. He has aligned himself with a group called Tony Alamo Christian Ministries. He has lived with this group and follows their doctrines and speaks about their leader, Tony Alamo, in his videos. This group follows the practices of child raping, child beatings and polygamy. I would concur that someone who believes in these most heinous sins against our children is not just intellectually stupid, but something much more sinister.
Please go to: http://www.tonyalamonews.com for more information.
Thank you for your time.
Gary Dale Cearley said,
July 5, 2008 at 3:47 am
Okay, it starts to make sense now. I became aware of Tony Alamo many years ago. Anyone who would listen to him is a fertile field for Jack Chick and Alberto Rivera.
Gary said,
July 12, 2008 at 3:30 am
I find it hard to believe that there is any kind of abuse going on at Alamo Ministries. in this day and age all it takes is one call to CPS and they have to come investigate. And they are a Gestapo type agency. They would have come in like they did the FLDS. Your allegations are also unfounded. They are only “allegations”. no one has been found guilty of these allegations and in this country we are innocent until proven guilty.
name said,
September 1, 2008 at 4:03 am
Hi!,
name said,
September 1, 2008 at 5:54 am
Good day!,
Thomas Richards said,
October 10, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Recently i was confronted by a man I consider to be a Jesuit Coadjutor and a Vatican Shill.
http://thoushaltnotbearfalsewitness.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/open-letter-to-thomas-richards-spiritually-smart-or-intellectually-stupid
He was confronting me over my comments to a book he wrote refuting Alberto Rivera’s info tying the Papacy to Islam. Why would someone who professes to be a baptist (Clinton claimed to be a Baptist also) take it upon himself to vindicate both the Papacy and Islam all the while attempting to DEBUNK Alberto Rivera?
Right there should have any serious Vatican researcher VERY suspicious. When I began reading excerpts of his book I found a lot of these types of wordings. “it was known to be” or “it is well known that…” as if this verifies his info.
While reading these types of things i couldn’t help to think that this mans book is TRASH. I don’t consider Alberto infallible. i am open to anything and if i saw enough evidence to show Alberto is a fraud i would never promote his work and i would completely disassociate myself from him.
But this has not happened. over and over again i see his words verified. Can alberto misspeak? can he get a fact wrong? yes he can. I lived an a USS NAVY vessel and knew like the back of my hand it’s exact dimensions and the exact manning. if I tried to tell you the exact dimensions today i may get some of it wrong. Does that mean i wasn’t on the ship? NO! Does it mean I wasn’t in the NAVY? NO!
So, recently I began to look again at this man who is publicly calling me out and here’s what I found right away.
I just began looking a little bit into the Gary Cearly who confronted me on his blog in regards to alberto’s testimony. just to show you a taste of what this man is all about, he interviews a scholar of islam and similiar things, the scholar is a professor in Israel at the university of bethlehem.
here is the school:
http://www.bethlehem.edu/about/history.shtml
“Bethlehem University of the Holy Land is a Catholic Christian co-educational institution of higher learning founded in 1973…”
you can begin reading that and see what this guy is a bout and where he gets his sources. THIS WAS THE FIRST THING I FOUND IN RESEARCHING THE GUY! what will i find next? i dont know if i need to continue.
here is the man he interviewed.
http://thoushaltnotbearfalsewitness.wordpress.com/category/jack-chick
i began reading this and saw that the professor has a slanted version of history. first of all the jews who left egypt with moses didnt study judaism as this guy suggests. they followed only the law of Moses. “Judaism” is a much newer religion which i believe started around and/or after the time of Christ. i would have to look at that to get the exact details but thats why i said what i said about Cearly. when i started looking at things he was saying way back when i saw that he was washed up.
Take care, Thomas
Not to mention the other links i have included in this thread
http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showtopic=2329
along with Dr. Veith’s incredible lecture entitled “The Islamic connection”
I would say that this Cearley who has challenged me has found himself buried under a mountain of evidence tying Islam to the papacy that he would NEVER be able to dig himself out of.
Thomas Richards
Gary Dale Cearley said,
July 4, 2009 at 3:42 am
Thomas,
First of all, again, as you make the assertion that your comments were not released because I somehow don’t want to be faced with “mountains of evidence” to the contrary of what I state then it shows your implicit dishonesty again. You know very well that this was withheld because you withheld approval for my comment on your YouTube account. (Will you now approve that comment? I doubt it.)
I stand firm in calling you a liar that you have never even read the book. One of the very first bits of information in the book describes my religious background which is neither Baptist as you say I purport to be, nor Catholic, which I am fairly sure would be your next assertion. And the only part of my book which you can reference is an appendix which I posted to the internet. All that does is to show that you are a callous liar. I don’t mind criticism of the book but I do resent liars who throw stones in glass houses.
Your analogy about serving on a naval vessel did not fit your subject. In Alberto Rivera’s case it is doubtful he was even on a ship yet he comes back and describes a UFO! You have to look into his story. It is bunk! And in your criticism above you go on to talk about Walter J. Veith’s lecture but this lecture is taken almost lock stock and smoking barrel from Robert Moray and Alberto Rivera. Veith even uses Chick Publication illustrations in many frames. This wasn’t “research” this man did. It was disseminating disinformation. Much of what he has said was covered already in my book and I have found it to be not true in the least. Yet you wouldn’t not that. You’ve never even cracked the cover yet you claim that “most” of my book isn’t sourced at all. Not only is that not true but you should keep in mind ALL of Alberto’s testimony IS NOT SOURCED.
Now, You have your response here on my blog. Are YOU going to approve my response on YouTube?
John Cooper said,
December 8, 2008 at 4:45 pm
What is written by that person “Bernie” is nothing but evil lies and is LIBEL and should be taken DOWN.
The CHURCH he is referring to does NOT “practice” those vile things but is a born again christian church.
people should go there yourselves before listening to some random phony who is even using tony alamo’s birth name to post a comment in here.
there has ONLY been “allegations” made against Alamo Ministries. Not ONE drop of hard proof.
John Cooper said,
December 8, 2008 at 5:00 pm
It’s AMAZING how STUPID people really are to just run with accusations made by unknown persons. Persons who haven’t been cross examined by a DEFENSE. This illegal conduct made by people who are SWORN to uphold law should be exposed for what it is. NAZISM.
“Allegations” are NOTHING. The NEW law is saying that people are GUILTY until proven innocent. Total inquisitional tactics. You can not face your accuser. You are guilty until proven innocent. Allegations are presented before a judge and they give permission to people to take your children and break into your house.
Anyone who approves of this is Anti American and Anti Christ.
John Cooper said,
December 8, 2008 at 5:04 pm
And John Gary, you should be ashamed of yourself. you srutinize accusations made by Alberto rivera and others about the vatican and then some halfwit stops by your page throwing around filth and slander and you say,
“Okay, it starts to make sense now. I became aware of Tony Alamo many years ago. Anyone who would listen to him is a fertile field for Jack Chick and Alberto Rivera.”
YOU are a PHONY
Gary Dale Cearley said,
December 11, 2008 at 10:16 am
John, I have looked into Tony Alamo. Have you read the book?
Sandra Hope said,
December 22, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Mr. Cearley,
I am surprised by the comments made by “John Cooper” especially because Mr. Alamo/Hoffman has been arrested, incarcerated and remains in jail without bail, and will be brought to trial in February for his crimes against children.
While one can do a google search to inform oneself, the website mentioned above, http://www.tonyalamonews.com does a great job putting all of the information in one spot.
John Cooper said,
March 5, 2009 at 4:15 am
Two Fake names and yet spammed the same link (”Bernie Hoffman” -1st response above and now “Sandra Hope”). Obviously the same person. And I’m sure the web site address you spammed is as phoney as YOU.
Fio said,
March 28, 2009 at 1:35 am
Thomas Richards is a Satanist Zionist posing as a Protestant Christian. He is nothing but a coward and he doesn’t have the intelligence or the manhood to debate anyone a typical coward like Eric Jon Phelps. ITS NOT THE JESUITS ITS THE JEWISH BANKERS!
Bren said,
May 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Thomas Ricards is a hateful person. Ignorant!!!
Blogging baptist said,
May 18, 2009 at 11:34 am
Honestly Thomas Richards is teaching works salvation and if it’s true that he’s a Zionist, that explains why he exposes the Vatican yet he doesn’t teach the right plan of salvation like the SDA and JWs.
andrew b said,
June 26, 2009 at 2:23 pm
ok im confused, wat is this site about
Gary Dale Cearley said,
June 26, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Thomas Richards in my opinion is someone who doesn’t care what the truth is unless it matches what he wants it to be.